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Debate Summary for 01-Nov-2011 on Developing Leadership in Social Work and Social Care


This was yet another excellent and exciting debate @SWSCmedia on Developing Leadership in Social Work and Social Care.

We thank everyone who joined the debate and hope you enjoyed it as much as we did and we welcome the new participants and those from affiliated professions who brought added wisdom to the debate…

During and after the debate we noticed that many forgot to use the hashtag #SWSCmedia and therefore, their tweets were not seen by others participants.  Please make sure you use the hashtag #SWSCmedia in all your tweets in relation to the debates or in relation to @SWSCmedia.

The debate was quite lively, in fact, we hit our “daily Twitter limit” during the debate and during the final minutes @SWSCmedia could not tweet any further. The tweet below gives an idea of the evening:

dansleeDan Slee

Wow. Impressed at the *very* active chat hashtag on social care organised by @swscmedia #SWSCmedia#localgov

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Given the many tweets without the hashtag #SWSCmedia, below is the partial summary of the debate.

We look forward to seeing all of you in our next debate about “Supervision” on 15 November at 8:00 to 9:00 PM London (3:00 to 4:00 PM New York).

Summary of the Debate:

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Good Evening Everyone & Welcome to our Second Live #TwitterDebate on “Developing Leadership in Social Work & Social Care” #SWSCmedia

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Please do not forget to use the hashtag #SWSCmedia in all your tweets to make sure it is visible to all debate participants. #SWSCmedia

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Before start we wish to thank our sponsors Goldsmiths University of London, The Open University & University of East London. #SWSCmedia

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We also wish to thank our media partners @CommunityCare & @ComcareRuth for her support.#SWSCmedia

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Also thank you @NickBerbiers @mgoat73 @ermintrude2 for guest posting their opinions Re: tonight’s subject on our blog #SWSCmedia

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Social workers are expected to “take responsibility for the professional learning and development of others through supervision, #SWSCmedia

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mentoring, assessing, research, teaching, leadership and management“ However, this is not an easy task & without challenges… #SWSCmedia

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toil w/ caring professions, pressures & complexity of caseloads, rigid hierarchies, etc. are only some of the present challenges #SWSCmedia

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So the first question for the debate is: How can we define and Develop Leadership in #SocialWork and#SocialCare#SWSCmedia

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JoeGodden2Joe Godden

#SWSCmedia An important topic, managers have become really agents of their organisation and caught in the proverbial rock and hard place joe

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ukequalityDonald Macaskill

#SWSCmedia Is there something distinctive about leadership within a social work context ?

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ProfSocialWorkFrom The Gut

#swscmedia quiet difficult to define and at many levels leadership

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intlsocialworkKaren Adshead

#SWSCmedia @ProfSocialWork agree with comments

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vickydixonPumpkin

#SWSCmedia Hello all, nice to be involved in what promises to be a rather interesting debate#SWSCmedia

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444blackcatbc

#swscmedia agreed r we talking leaders within your team org or national basis for the whole profession

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jaxraffertyJackie Rafferty

I found @nickberbiers @Ermintrude2 & @mgoat73 ‘s blogs really helpful particularly the difference tween leadership and management #swscmedia

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ukequalityDonald Macaskill

#SWSCmedia given our nursing colleague I always liked the maeutic model .. A midwife doesn’t do the work but provides a structure of

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ukequalityDonald Macaskill

#SWSCmedia of support and knowledge to enable others to fulfil potential achieve aim .. Ie give birth

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Keet84Ben Keetley

#swscmedia leadership is about inspiring/engaging people and driving change. To be effective ‘managers’ need to strive to be leaders

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jaxraffertyJackie Rafferty

But leadership of the profession is not uncontested eg BASW and TCOSW #swscmedia

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vickydixonPumpkin

my 3rd sector agency leadership seems to be valued in terms of business management & is undergoing a big shift from care to biz #SWSCmedia

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ukequalityDonald Macaskill

#SWSCmedia too tame ?

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ProfSocialWorkFrom The Gut

@vickydixon I agree there is a big shift towards the business management model all around #swscmedia

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444blackcatbc

#swscmedia Leaders r those who enable u to see whats possible rather than what u have to do

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Faced w/ increasing shrinking resources, increased tensions & demands how can social workers develop leadership in practice? #swscmedia

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ukequalityDonald Macaskill

#SWSCmedia it’s easier to manage a business model than a set if dynamic contradictory relationships

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mgoat73Martin Webber

#SWSCmedia Creating, holding and articulating the vision for the profession. But leadership can be micro as well as macro.

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444blackcatbc

#swscmedia can we find leaders for a diverse profession which is likely to splinter further as privatization takes hold

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jaxraffertyJackie Rafferty

Leadership can be found in any group whatever status – but also need leaders who ensure direction & vision & sustainability #swscmedia

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anniecoopsAnne Cooper

#swscmedia In nursing we can’t agree a definition either = too hard. Recommend this book tho:http://www.amazon.co.uk/Becoming-Strategic-Leader-Organizations-Leadership/dp/0787968676

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ovolactohippoDavid McFarlane

I thought that @mgoat73 ‘s link to evidence-base was important when thinking about leadership in MDTs and on a SW identity level #SWSCmedia

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NickBerbiersNick Berbiers

Someone must have led the shift to the business models. Was is social work leaders? Or others?#SWSCmedia

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Faced w/ shrinking resources, increased tensions & demands how can social workers develop leadership in practice? #SWSCmedia

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mgoat73Martin Webber

#swscmedia Is it possible to disentangle management from leadership or are they inextricably bound with one another?

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ProfSocialWorkFrom The Gut

@SWSCmedia here is really question is what kind of leadership do they want us to practice #swscmediawe need to think of buz culture infl

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Keet84Ben Keetley

#swscmedia distinguishing between ‘leadership’ & ‘management’ exists in other industries – leaders lead people and managers manage processes

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vickydixonPumpkin

@mgoat73 IS the challenge in getting social work professionals to agree on a vision and work towards it seperately but together? #SWSCmedia

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intlsocialworkKaren Adshead

#SWSCmedia @mgoat73 I agree with these sentiments but who is responsible for this?

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ProfSocialWorkFrom The Gut

@vickydixon @mgoat73 I agree & think that is the biggest challenge getting professionals to agree on the vision for leadership #swscmedia

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444blackcatbc

#swscmedia on micro level advance/expert practitioners should b leading while team managers manage

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mgoat73Martin Webber

@Keet84 Agreed #swscmedia

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Keet84Ben Keetley

#swscmedia when resources are shrinking effective, appropriate delegation becomes paramount

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vickydixonPumpkin

@ProfSocialWork It seems that the task of fighting for SW standards is oft left to a single social worker withing a large MDT #SWSCmedia

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ovolactohippoDavid McFarlane

I personally believe that it starts with SW education – we need to inspire SWs to be confident, evidence-backed professionals #swscmedia

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jaxraffertyJackie Rafferty

I think we are discussing models of leadership rather than definitions #swscmedia

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bonklesouldavidmckendrick

#SWSCmedia Leadership can be demonstrated through a focus on needs as oppossed to resources, on depth of relationships and on integrity

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ProfSocialWorkFrom The Gut

@vickydixon @swscmedia could a potential problem be that most SW don’t really view themselves as leaders? #swscmedia

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anniecoopsAnne Cooper

#SWSCmedia in spirit sharing NHS has just develped a new leadership framewk you might like to look athttp://www.institute.nhs.uk

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Keet84Ben Keetley

@jaxrafferty surely the models are derived form the definitions though? #swscmedia

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vickydixonPumpkin

@Keet84 I agree, I want to be led by someone who knows my job and can do it better than I can. SW-ers do speak our own language #SWSCmedia

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ProfSocialWorkFrom The Gut

@vickydixon @swscmedia Sometimes there can be that thinking that if we lead we are taking power away and being oppressive #swscmedia

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Keet84Ben Keetley

@ProfSocialWork @vickydixon @swscmedia if so that’s a shame,as gd Lship qualities are used with SU’s – motivation, engagement etc #swscmedia

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jaxraffertyJackie Rafferty

The history of working in hierarchies has not nurtured leaders. Anyone from SCIE or CWDC here as they are working on leadership #swscmedia

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NickBerbiersNick Berbiers

@ProfSocialWork @vickydixon @swscmedia That is frequently true I think #SWSCmedia

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bonklesouldavidmckendrick

#swscmedia Hard to do so but personal responsibility is an element

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ProfSocialWorkFrom The Gut

@BASW_UK @vickydixon @swscmediaswscmedia really hit the nail on the head there #swscmedia

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anniecoopsAnne Cooper

#swscmedia sorry link to NHS institute is down – worth a look later though!

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seawolf073seawolf

#SWSCmedia Perhaps leadership needs to be included in the curriculum of the MA / BA in SW.

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444blackcatbc

#swscmedia in nearby LA role of expert pracs has been developed to keep up with research policy etc and a provide a goal other than manager

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intlsocialworkKaren Adshead

#SWSCmedia is it a question of leadership or participation in shaping the field/profession? What about leadership from below and grassroots?

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vickydixonPumpkin

@ProfSocialWork @swscmedia The core of all our learning is very self focussed – perhaps a need for professional SW mgmt course? #SWSCmedia

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ovolactohippoDavid McFarlane

I would focus on education being a SW student ;P I think that “teaching” leadership is tied up in teaching organisational context #swscmedia

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ProfSocialWorkFrom The Gut

@NickBerbiers @vickydixon @swscmedia how do we change this thinking to empower SW?#swscmedia

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Keet84Ben Keetley

@seawolf073 Would be interesting, I know stu nurses’ final placement is a ‘management’ placement wit a rvw of Lship capabilities #swscmedia

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ProfSocialWorkFrom The Gut

@vickydixon those words scare me a bit professional management course but i do understand what you mean #swscmedia @swscmedia

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Ermintrude2Moo

@vickydixon hi – just arrived – there are leadership and management courses specifically for social workers already! #SWSCmedia

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BASW_UKBASW

@ProfSocialWork @NickBerbiers @vickydixon @swscmedia By listening to service users who want us to use our power effectively #swscmedia

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ProfSocialWorkFrom The Gut

@Keet84 @seawolf073 this is very interesting #swscmedia could you say more.

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DailyPlanUKDailyPlan

#swscmedia Leadership should come from within, not from above. Those on the ground floor are best suited to lead. Cut the bureaucracy.

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jaxraffertyJackie Rafferty

Isn’t leadership a fairly new concept in #sw previously only management skills discussed? #swscmedia

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NickBerbiersNick Berbiers

Can one teach leadership? I’m not sure about that myself. #SWSCmedia

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anniecoopsAnne Cooper

@444blackcat #swscmedia gosh so similar to nursing!

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444blackcatbc

#swscmedia we need leaders who r in practice but need a unified professional body to develop that

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ProfSocialWorkFrom The Gut

@NickBerbiers @SWSCmedia can leadership be taught I think it can be taught but there needs to be a willingness. #swscmedia

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Keet84Ben Keetley

Lship skills are transferrable across industries, where does SW expertise fit in though? I have Lship exp, but not SW experience #swscmedia

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Ermintrude2Moo

@SWSCmedia unfortunately there have been distractions at the so-called ‘top’ of the profession. We need more grassroots leaders #swscmedia

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DailyPlanUKDailyPlan

#swscmedia Too many hops between leaders/decision makers and those affected by those decisions.

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mgoat73Martin Webber

@ProfSocialWork #swscmedia Yes, I think we are trained to be lead rather than lead

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bonklesouldavidmckendrick

@ovolactohippo Agree but leadership not always taught leaders are born not made! sometimes more about encouraging not teaching #swscmedia

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anniecoopsAnne Cooper

#swscmedia in nursing we accept leadership is needed at all levels and is different to management but managers need leadership skills 2

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vickydixonPumpkin

@Ermintrude2 Are there! Is mgmt is left as an afterthought for students as we are all seen as wanting to ‘make a diff’ 1-2-1 #SWSCmedia

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ProfSocialWorkFrom The Gut

@NickBerbiers @swscmedia the social workers tend to shy away that is the real problem #swscmediawe like to do the frontline work? agree?

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JoeGodden2Joe Godden

#SWSCmedia was in Devon last week and they are cutting senior practitioners we must fight for these roles and back Munro#

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GemmaAt_CMHCSWSGemma Finnegan

@DailyPlanUK given the right support and training I agree that great leaders can emerge. #swscmedia

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Damo_SWDamo

@SWSCmedia @vickydixon sorry I’m late, I think a leader can be of any rank. Seniority is not necessarily important #swscmedia

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Keet84Ben Keetley

@ProfSocialWork @seawolf073 Fnl placement stu attends MDT, has enhanced responsibilities re: how to manage ward & colleagues #swscmedia

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ProfSocialWorkFrom The Gut

@anniecoops #swscmedia that is interesting I think we are still trying to get use to this in social work? do other frontline agree?

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jaxraffertyJackie Rafferty

The new Professional Capabilities Framework recognises leadership as a capability and will have outcome statements linked to that #swscmedia

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ovolactohippoDavid McFarlane

@NickBerbiers (try again with hashtag!) I think you can nurture leadership skills and give the basis for leaders to develop #swscmedia

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bonklesouldavidmckendrick

#SWSCmedia regulation and inspection regimes promote management over leadership #SWSCmedia

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vickydixonPumpkin

@anniecoops At least in nursing you are managed by senior nursing or medical staff – there is an element of earnt their stripes #SWSCmedia

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Keet84Ben Keetley

@ProfSocialWork @seawolf073 my partner is a nurse but she’s on a night shift, I’ll ask her about management placement and PM you #swscmedia

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444blackcatbc

#swscmedia we need a career path that allows SW to stay in practice rather than management in adults not just children services

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ProfSocialWorkFrom The Gut

@jaxrafferty but are frontline social workers convinced about leadership especially with the management culture at the mo #swscmedia

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Damo_SWDamo

@DailyPlanUK @BASW_UK totally agree. I just made a similar point prior to seeing this… #swscmedia

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How can we ensure rigid hierarchies & current regulation do not suffocate individual initiative and leadership in social work? #swscmedia

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vickydixonPumpkin

@ProfSocialWork @NickBerbiersis it that management is viewed as paper-pushing, chained to desk & ultimate responsibility? #SWSCmedia

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Ermintrude2Moo

#swscmedia we mustn’t be dismissive of management though – it is vital too #swscmedia

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seawolf073seawolf

#SWSCmedia Thanks Ermintrude that’s helpful to know – I’m still a SW student so am new to all this.

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mgoat73Martin Webber

@jaxrafferty Yes, advanced practitioners should lead their teams / services, and not manage. The PCF should recognise this #swscmedia

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intlsocialworkKaren Adshead

#SWSCmedia does leadership not come from credibility, good decision making? If someone is in authority, does that make them a good leader?

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anniecoopsAnne Cooper

#SWSCmedia sorry for twittering on am supposed to b lurking but lots of lessons in nursing that are similarhttp://www.nursingtimes.net/nursing-practice-clinical-research/lessons-in-empowerment/206336.article

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vickydixonPumpkin

@Damo_SW Hey, I agree but there is a level of strength required from the individual which is not supported profession-wide #SWSCmedia

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bonklesouldavidmckendrick

@444blackcat Has been tried in some Scots LA’s < take up poor #SWSCMedia

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Keet84Ben Keetley

@SWSCmedia Key aspect of leadership is driving change, inc structures. When you try to improve a procedure, you’re being a leader #swscmedia

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jaxraffertyJackie Rafferty

Maybe managers are appointed but leaders are only leaders if others allow them to be? #swscmedia

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dansleeDan Slee

Wow. Impressed at the *very* active chat hashtag on social care organised by @swscmedia#SWSCmedia#localgov

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bonklesouldavidmckendrick

these two concepts not mutually exclusive, need to consider how we achieve blend and balance#SWSCmedia

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ukequalityDonald Macaskill

#swscmedia the mark of leadership is surely authenticity and that comes with walking the talk and why best leaders come from within

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GemmaAt_CMHCSWSGemma Finnegan

@444blackcat I saw my first client today in months since managment role start in Feb and it was great reminder of frontline #swscmedia

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mgoat73Martin Webber

@444blackcat There is a career path for advanced practitioners to stay in frontline practice, but employers rarely use it #swscmedia

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Ermintrude2Moo

@mgoat73 I thnk the advanced practitioner route is very positive but needs to be encouraged and built into career development #swscmedia

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ProfSocialWorkFrom The Gut

@jaxrafferty @keet84 but leaders must also prove themselves? leaders must earn respect & be able to respect the ppl they rep #swscmedia

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Damo_SWDamo

@vickydixon I think @Ermintrude2 said in a blog leadership is a talent, maybe somewhat inherent. U mean power struggles #swscmedia

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Ermintrude2Moo

@mgoat73 That’s my point – employers should be forced to – it should be built into career paths#swscmedia

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jaxraffertyJackie Rafferty

Want to track #swscmedia but difficult whilst trying to make contribution too so apols if am out of sequence#swscmedia

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Keet84Ben Keetley

@jaxrafferty I used to run a course called ‘leading from within the team’ – ppl found it 2b a gd gateway to formal Lship position #swscmedia

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maxneillmax neill

@swscmedia are we waiting for ‘great’ leaders to emerge, when the task is to make a difference ourselves?#swscmedia #leadership

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Ermintrude2Moo

@Damo_SW i was exploing my own thoughts about talents v skill of leadership v management #swscmedia

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shirleyayresShirley Ayres

@mgoat73 @444blackcat interesting to reflect why employers do not use career path for advanced practitioners to stay in practice, #swscmedia

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Keet84Ben Keetley

@ProfSocialWork @jaxrafferty Can a leader prove themselves as a leader without having occupied the positions of every1 they lead? #swscmedia

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intlsocialworkKaren Adshead

#SWSCmedia @ukequality good point Needs emphasis on how do we transform stu to ethical practitioners who feel capable of taking lead

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jaxraffertyJackie Rafferty

RT @ukequality#swscmedia mark of leadership is surely authenticity…..& that comes best leaders come from within <agree

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444blackcatbc

#swscmedia managers under too much pressure to lead n r not always SW which to b a inspiring leader i think u have to be

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GeorgeJulianGeorgeJulian

@jaxrafferty @ukequality I was told recently that I was too authentic! I took it as much more of a compliment than was intended #swscmedia

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mgoat73Martin Webber

@Keet84 Not necessarily, but they need to be able to command respect #swscmedia

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shirleyayresShirley Ayres

@intlsocialwork If someone is in authority, does that make them a good leader? < not necessarily!#SWSCmedia

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jaxraffertyJackie Rafferty

@GeorgeJulian stick to being authentic – even if not popular with some – is the only way #swscmedia

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mgoat73Martin Webber

@maxneill Yes, good point. #swscmedia

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Ermintrude2Moo

@jaxrafferty agree re: authenticity @georgejulian #swscmedia

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ProfSocialWorkFrom The Gut

so much food for thought and so many good points RT @maxneill “task is to make a difference ourselves” how can anyone disagree #swscmedia

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GemmaAt_CMHCSWSGemma Finnegan

@ProfSocialWork @Damo_SW@vickydixon @Ermintrude2 #swscmedia – I think coaching and mentoring have a role here.

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TheresaunoTheresa Gallacher

Sorry to butt in -good chat goin! Personally I believe that managers n leaders have different qualities and different motivations #swscmedia

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bonklesouldavidmckendrick

#SWSCMedia Dont forget leadership often comes through attribution, managment comes through attainment of position

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intlsocialworkKaren Adshead

#SWSCmedia @shirleyayres thanks – how do we shift power from those in these roles? share decision making/co-creation? Leadership overrated?

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vickydixonPumpkin

@ProfSocialWork @Damo_SW @Ermintrude2 Wannabe SWs wer taught how to think/reflect/fight Y not include leadership? Wer ambitious #SWSCmedia

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Keet84Ben Keetley

@mgoat73 Exactly, looks like the consensus on here is that a minimum of authenticity is a prerequisite#swscmedia

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ProfSocialWorkFrom The Gut

RT @bonklesoul#SWSCMedia Dont forget leadership often comes through attribution, managment comes through attainment of position

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bonklesouldavidmckendrick

“Whats right is not always popular and what’s popular is not always right” #SWSCmedia

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Ermintrude2Moo

@intlsocialwork I don’t think leadership is overrated. Good leadership is like golddust! #SWSCmedia

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MrDougalDogDougal

#swscmedia I think to a degree it is a false dichotomy – different emphases but leaders still manage & most staff need some l’ship qualities

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Keet84Ben Keetley

@vickydixon @ProfSocialWork @Damo_SW @Ermintrude2 I’d say they are actually solid, transferrable Lship qualities #swscmedia

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Ermintrude2Moo

@mgoat73 I’ve been on specific ‘leadership for AMHPs’ training on the basis that all AMHPs need leadership training.. #swscmedia

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NickBerbiersNick Berbiers

John F Kennedy said that leadership and learning are indespensable to each other. He used to listen to alternate views – a lot! #SWSCmedia

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ukequalityDonald Macaskill

#swscmedia Is there also a truth that leadership comes from opposition to management resistance to a direction a travelling against majority

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ProfSocialWorkFrom The Gut

@intlsocialwork does co – creation really exsist in social work? Social Work has been plagued by power struggles? #swscmedia

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intlsocialworkKaren Adshead

#SWSCmedia maybe leadership is too limited a term Needs wider gaze, authentic not same, also integrity etc, but often overlook for L-centric

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vickydixonPumpkin

@damo_Sw ‘@ProfSocialWork @Ermintrude2 leadership should involve a level of advocacy’ – do sw’s advocate for ourselves enuf #SWSCmedia

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jaxraffertyJackie Rafferty

Slight diversion – #swsc need leaders who can work across professional boundaries & politically & economically and hold our trust #swscmedia

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ProfSocialWorkFrom The Gut

As social workers can we say hand on heart that alternate views are heard? Can we say that co-creation really happens #swscmedia I think not

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Ermintrude2Moo

@vickydixon some do but we need to do it much more. We can’t advocate for others well if we don’t advocate for ourselves! #SWSCmedia

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Damo_SWDamo

Leadership is ultimately about creating a way for people to contribute to making something extraordinary happen #wikipedia #swscmedia

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NickBerbiersNick Berbiers

This IS grassroots leadership, right here right now! And we are all levels of role. #swscmedia

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444blackcatbc

@vickydixon @damo_Sw @ProfSocialWork @Ermintrude2 #swscmedia no we r too busy spinning plates

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ProfSocialWorkFrom The Gut

@vickydixon really good point. I am always on about this one sw standing up for themselves and advocating for themselves #swscmedia

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intlsocialworkKaren Adshead

#SWSCmedia @ProfSocialWork problematic perhaps, but does that abdicate efforts to share and empowerment?

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SWSCmediaSWSCmedia

Excellent points but now let us focus particularly in developing leadership in staff… how can it be done?#swscmedia

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jaxraffertyJackie Rafferty

IMHO there is a level of conformity required to be accepted in #swsc that belies our inclusive statements re co-creation etc #swscmedia

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ProfSocialWorkFrom The Gut

@444blackcat @vickydixon @damo_Sw @Ermintrude2 exactly right with your point @444blackcatthings need 2 change #swscmedia to enable sw

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Ermintrude2Moo

@mgoat73 managing within a team the role is more than MHA assessments but as more senior/experienced social workers/team members #swscmedia

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bonklesouldavidmckendrick

@jaxrafferty Tough task “trust” in complex environments can often be highly disputed can lead to organisational frustration #swscmedia

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HennyHeawoodHenny Heawood

@ProfSocialWork @vickydixon the most impressive leaders in social work seldom advance beyond middle management,wonder why~#swscmedia

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jaxraffertyJackie Rafferty

Agree RT @bonklesoul: ..”trust” in complex environments can often be highly disputed can lead to organisational frustration #swscmedia

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Ermintrude2Moo

@SWSCmedia I think it needs to be a role of the HPC to embed into professional development#SWSCmedia

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Keet84Ben Keetley

@SWSCmedia Re-conceptualising the key skills of SW as valid Lship qualities.Driving change, communicating, problem solving #swscmedia

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ProfSocialWorkFrom The Gut

I like this question @swscmedia and think that things need to change A) workload must be manageable (B) swers need more freedom #swscmedia

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jaxraffertyJackie Rafferty

Maybe the deconstruction of the welfare state going on provides leadership opportunities for #swscmedia

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ukequalityDonald Macaskill

#swscmedia if I recall the best leaders I know they have been true to themselves, often misfits in the system and voices before their time

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Keet84Ben Keetley

@SWSCmedia SWks could apply for leadership positions in other industries without having had direct line management responsibility #swscmedia

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SWSCmediaSWSCmedia

Developing leadership is every social worker & social work manager’s responsibility… How can we make sure that can happen? #SWSCmedia

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intlsocialworkKaren Adshead

#SWSCmedia social workers must still have and be encouraged to question their leaders and managers

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mgoat73Martin Webber

@jaxrafferty Absolutely. In MDTs this is essential. We need to think about how we are perceived by other prof groups #swscmedia

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Ermintrude2Moo

@SWSCmedia enforcing it as a part of re-registration requirements! #SWSCmedia

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ProfSocialWorkFrom The Gut

to cultivate their skills and we need training. We also need to be trusted by our orgs and respected by them.#swscmedia

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vickydixonPumpkin

@SWSCmedia Cooperation? Is there a way to join individual SWs into one powerful network which thrives & advances thru leadership? #swscmedia

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jaxraffertyJackie Rafferty

Are we talking ideal world or reality of training budgets slashed & time for reflection/learning non-existent?#swscmedia

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mgoat73Martin Webber

@Ermintrude2 like consultant roles for sw? #swscmedia

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ProfSocialWorkFrom The Gut

we also need to be proud of our profession and professional identity to enable us to become leaders#swscmedia

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intlsocialworkKaren Adshead

#SWSCmedia to some extentthis also means SWkrs need to be allowed to take decisions and risks and learn from and make mistakes in practice

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bonklesouldavidmckendrick

#SWSCmedia complex issue is locality specific and organisationally so as well but needs to have strong focus on indivdual responsibility

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mgoat73Martin Webber

@SWSCmedia An investment in Consultant SW or Advanced Prac roles will help, though fiscal climate doesn’t allow this #swscmedia

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anniecoopsAnne Cooper

#swscmedia lots of things for you to look at in health in general – loads of resources – check out #kingsfundhttp://www.kingsfund.org.uk/publications/articles/simon_bird_on.html

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Ermintrude2Moo

@intlsocialwork I agree – I have felt deskilled at times at work due to levels of micro-management#SWSCmedia

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jaxraffertyJackie Rafferty

Suspect the answers are not very different from nursing & medicine but resource base very different for CPD#swscmedia

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444blackcatbc

@jaxrafferty #swscmedia fear if schools can use unqualified teachers it could happen with SW’s in social enterprises

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Keet84Ben Keetley

@jaxrafferty Lship dev doesn’t need to only be part of formal qualfctn though, it’s a range of transferrable skils #swscmedia

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jaxraffertyJackie Rafferty

RT @444blackcat#swscmedia fear if schools can use unqualified teachers it could happen with SW’s in social enterprises <already happening

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TheresaunoTheresa Gallacher

‘Leading to Deliver’ programmes #swscmedia

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robertguzderrobert guzder

#swscmedia sarah banks analyses this pretty well with ‘3 models of practice’, eg if conflict between practitioner -v- leader/agency

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ProfSocialWorkFrom The Gut

@Ermintrude2 @intlsocialwork agree with that and what does that do for confidence and then leadership skills ? #swscmedia

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jaxraffertyJackie Rafferty

RT @Keet84: Lship dev doesn’t need to be part of formal qualfctn though it’s a range of transferrable skils#swscmedia <agree absolutely

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Ermintrude2Moo

@ProfSocialWork exactly – as for me, I changed jobs! #swscmedia

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vickydixonPumpkin

@ProfSocialWork @NickBerbiers @HennyHeawood Feel out of depth? SWs come from diverse backgrounds not much represented in mgmt #swscmedia

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anniecoopsAnne Cooper

@jaxrafferty #SWSCmedia NHS not resource rich either -lots of nurses do development stuff in own time – part of need to b registered as well

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mgoat73Martin Webber

CPD opportunities will help, but sw profession and teams need to allow leaders to emerge and foster their development #swscmedia

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seawolf073seawolf

#swscmedia given disproportionate numbers of men in sw management vs. women frontline workers perhaps gender is an issue?

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Keet84Ben Keetley

@Ermintrude2 @ProfSocialWork Rightly so, micro-management is anethema to quality Lship#swscmedia

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Keet84Ben Keetley

@seawolf073 Yeah this is really conspicuous #swscmedia

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Ermintrude2Moo

@seawolf073 I think it’s a massive issue too #swscmedia

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ProfSocialWorkFrom The Gut

@Ermintrude2 but work place should support and trust swers? Micro management not good 4 anyone or confidence #swscmedia

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intlsocialworkKaren Adshead

#SWSCmedia SWkrs need to be proactive as agents of change to advocate for their own practice needs – we all do

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BigG453Chris Griffin

#SWSCmedia. managers have to give direction to their teams and be a role model in thought and deed. The rest is down to professionalism

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Ermintrude2Moo

@BASW_UK the adoption league tabel has no value. #SWSCmedia

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ProfSocialWorkFrom The Gut

@seawolf073 agree really big issue and look at the demographics for managers and senior managers in terms of gender #swscmedia

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NSASocialCareNSA Social Care

@SWSCmedia We at @NSASocialCare are developing a Leadership Qualities Framewok to this end#SWSCmedia

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jaxraffertyJackie Rafferty

RT @jaxrafferty@anniecoops @SWSCmedia Yes the new #sw cpd framework puts responsibility squarely on practitioner oops RT forgot #swscmedia

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ProfSocialWorkFrom The Gut

@intlsocialwork @seawolf073 agree fully just said something similar re gender and top management#swscmedia

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Ermintrude2Moo

I think we must all take responsibility for our own learning and development as professionals #swscmedia

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ukequalityDonald Macaskill

@intlsocialwork @seawolf073 massive issue of appointment discrimination #SWSCmedia

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intlsocialworkKaren Adshead

@Ermintrude2: I think we must all take responsibility for our own learning and development as professionals #swscmedia” :))

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ukequalityDonald Macaskill

#swscmedia absence of BME and disability leadership too

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jaxraffertyJackie Rafferty

Gotta go – thanx all #swscmedia

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Keet84Ben Keetley

@jaxrafferty hopefully Lship focus won’t be seen as something onerous/oppressive, these skills are already used by great SWkrs #swscmedia

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intlsocialworkKaren Adshead

Thank you all for interesting debate I have to go now g’nite #swscmedia

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anniecoopsAnne Cooper

@swscmedia #swscmedia Thanks for having me :O)

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mgoat73Martin Webber

@jaxrafferty Responsibility for CPD has always been on practitioners at advanced level. But they often have to pay for it as well #swscmedia

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WeareOneinFourOne in Four – Verna

@Theresauno I didn’t contribute but followed – interesting debate, thanks for pointer. #SWSCmedia

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ukequalityDonald Macaskill

#swscmedia thanks everyone for another great debate and thank you @claudiamegele for your organising

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ProfSocialWorkFrom The Gut

really good debate bye everyone #swscmedia

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claudiamegeleClaudia Megele

Thank you everyone for joining us the debate is now closed… #swscmedia Join our next debate on Supervision 15 Nov. 20:00 GMT #swscmedia

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vickydixonPumpkin

@intlsocialwork does the action of being proactive generally involve irritating the people who might promote you? #swscmedia

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Ermintrude2Moo

@claudiamegele Thanks for the debate. Fantastic – sorry about lateness – look forward to next!#swscmedia

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KennyMcD1980Kenny McDade

enjoyed the debate, night all #swscmedia

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ovolactohippoDavid McFarlane

@SWSCmedia Thanks for the debate – interesting again! Lurked for the last half but very nice to see so many people contributing! #swscmedia

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mgoat73Martin Webber

@ovolactohippo Thank you! I didn’t get a chance to highlight this in the debate as I had stated it already in the blog post #swscmedia

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vickydixonPumpkin

@GeorgeJulian Indeed. I tried to get my cohort of yr2 sw students involved in the #swscmedia debate & almost all were unconvinced:-/

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Keet84Ben Keetley

@claudiamegele Thanks for dbt, interesting to see diff persp re: Lship from diff industries.Expertise&empowerment paramount here! #swscmedia

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mgoat73Martin Webber

@SWSCmedia Another great debate. Thank you Claudia for bringing everyone together. Not many answers, just many more questions! #swscmedia

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ovolactohippoDavid McFarlane

@mgoat73 thinking about leadership it’s hard to pinpoint what underlies it. Evidence-base isn’t obvious, but very important! #swscmedia

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vickydixonPumpkin

@TracieFK @profsocialwork #swscmedia Hmm, I started @ 24 with 8yrs of living with challenging foster kids and 3yrs working in sexual health!

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jaxraffertyJackie Rafferty

#govsm #swscmedia be wonderful if we could get these two out of sync – wanted to follow both but brain & multitasking abilities not enough

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NickBerbiersNick Berbiers

Note to self – must get faster connection and faster fingers. Great debate. Best to all. Until the next time…#swscmedia

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ovolactohippoDavid McFarlane

@vickydixon @GeorgeJulian I’m always surprised at how few of my fellow SW students even use twitter!#swscmedia

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GeorgeJulianGeorgeJulian

@vickydixon I think we need stronger articulation of the benefits, need talk more impact less reachhttp://georgeblogswordpressom/2011/10/30/social-media-metrics-reach-%E2%89%A0-quality/ #lgovsm#swscmedia

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NickBerbiersNick Berbiers

@vickydixon @GeorgeJulian That’s worrying! WHy were they unconvinced? #swscmedia

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WeareOneinFourOne in Four – Verna

@Keet84 Just want to add, it’s quicker to reply to someone then go back ‘home’ to tweet – choose someone with short name! #swscmedia

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jenipurplenessJeni Acelas

#swscmedia I missed it! from viewing the timeline looks like a lot of debate about leadership verses management.

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TheresaunoTheresa Gallacher

RT @LalitBhojwani Differences between a leader and a manager. http://www.helium.com/items/2244575-differences-between-a-leader-and-a-manager #swscmedia

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WeareOneinFourOne in Four – Verna

@Theresauno So alike Theresa, I was thinking about which links I could RT from that debate, got sidetracked lol #swscmedia

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mybeautifu1oneMichele Oster

@ukequality#SWSCmedia it’s easier to manage a business model than a set if dynamic contradictory relationships” #openyourmind

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